Marco Rubio is set to meet Pope Leo at the Vatican to address tensions following Donald Trump's criticisms of the pontiff. The meeting aims to ease strained relations between the Holy See and Washington.
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Marco Rubio to meet Pope Leo at the Vatican
Meeting aims to ease tensions after Trump’s criticisms
Trump accused the pope of supporting nuclear weapons
Pope Leo emphasized the church's opposition to nuclear weapons
Rubio downplayed the rift between Trump and Leo
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The US secretary of state, Marco Rubio, is to meet Pope Leo at the Vatican on Thursday in an effort to ease tensions after Donald Trump’s repeated criticisms of the first North American pontiff.
Amid unprecedented strain on relations between the Holy See and Washington, Rubio is expected to meet Leo at the Apostolic Palace in the morning, before holding a series of meetings with the Italian government.
Trump on Tuesday accused the pope of supporting nuclear weapons and “endangering a lot of Catholics’’ with his stance against the Iran war, in the latest attack by the US president on the pontiff.
On Wednesday, Leo responded: “If anyone wants to criticise me for proclaiming the gospel, let them do so with the truth: the church has spoken out against all nuclear weapons for years, there is no doubt about that. I simply hope to be listened to because of the value of God’s word.”
Rubio downplayed the rift between Trump and Leo and told reporters at the White House on Tuesday that the president’s recent criticism of the pontiff was rooted in his opposition to Iran potentially obtaining a nuclear weapon, which could be used against millions of Catholics around the world.
Trump “doesn’t understand why anyone – leave aside the pope – would think that it’s a good idea for Iran to ever have a nuclear weapon,” Rubio said.
Pope Leo XIV greeting the Italian prime minister, Giorgia Meloni, in January.
Pope Leo XIV greeting the Italian prime minister, Giorgia Meloni, in January. Photograph: Vatican Media Handout/EPA
Relations between the Vatican and Washington have never been so fraught. In April, the US president lashed out at Leo over the pope’s criticism of the war in Iran, branding him “weak on crime” and “terrible on foreign policy”, and claiming he had only been elected pontiff because Trump himself occupied the White House. Trump later shared – before deleting – an AI-generated image depicting himself as a Christ-like figure.
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What is the purpose of Marco Rubio's meeting with Pope Leo?
The meeting aims to ease tensions between the Holy See and Washington following Donald Trump's criticisms of the pontiff.
What did Donald Trump accuse Pope Leo of regarding nuclear weapons?
Trump accused Pope Leo of supporting nuclear weapons and endangering Catholics with his stance against the Iran war.
How did Pope Leo respond to Trump's criticisms?
Pope Leo stated that the church has opposed nuclear weapons for years and emphasized the importance of being listened to regarding the gospel.
When and where will Rubio's meeting with Pope Leo take place?
Rubio's meeting with Pope Leo is scheduled for Thursday morning at the Apostolic Palace in the Vatican.
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Rubio’s likely goal is to try to smooth over Trump’s insults and repair increasingly damaged ties between the US and the Vatican. According to several analysts, the secretary of state is expected to defend Washington’s rationale for launching the war in Iran, while carefully avoiding a direct clash with the church’s position.
Asked whether he placed greater trust in Rubio or Trump, the Vatican secretary of state, Cardinal Pietro Parolin, told reporters on Tuesday: “I count on no one. I count only on our Lord Jesus Christ.” He added that Trump attacking Leo “in this way, or reproaching him for what he does, seems rather strange, to say the least”.
Rubio will meet the Italian prime minister, Giorgia Meloni, on Friday as relations between Rome and Washington have also deteriorated.
Lorenzo Castellani, a political historian at Luiss Guido Carli University in Rome, said Trump’s attacks on the pope, which have provoked widespread outrage in Italy where the papacy plays a crucial role in the political and cultural imagination, ‘‘has effectively forced Meloni to distance herself from the US president’’, despite, earlier this year, saying she hoped Trump would one day receive the Nobel peace prize.
According to Castellani, Meloni’s shift from being a staunch Trump ally to adopting a more critical stance towards the US president is driven by political and electoral considerations.
‘‘For the first time since the second world war, foreign policy has become a central concern for Italian public opinion,’’ Castellani said. ‘‘This shift had already begun with the war in Ukraine, but the current crisis represents a decisive escalation. The reason is simple: this is a conflict with direct geopolitical and economic consequences for Italy and for Europe as a whole.’’
‘For this reason, he added, “Meloni can no longer maintain a clear separation between foreign and domestic policy. In the past, she has taken positions that ran counter to segments of her own electorate. But now, recent polling suggests that across both the right and the left there is broad agreement in condemning the position of Trump. The same sentiments now cut across a vast portion of the electorate – arguably as much as 80 to 90%.’’
Also expected to feature prominently in the talks is the future of the roughly 13,000 US military personnel stationed across seven naval bases in Italy.
