Hegseth right to mock Royal Navy, says ex-army chief as he backs claims over military underfunding – UK politics live
TL;DR
Keir Starmer faces criticism for not providing a timeline for the UK's defence investment plan, which aims to increase defence spending to 3% of GDP by the end of the next parliament. Former defence secretary George Robertson condemns the Treasury's handling of military funding.
Key points
- Keir Starmer has not provided a timeline for the defence investment plan.
- The plan aims for 3% of GDP in defence spending by the end of the next parliament.
- Total national security spending is targeted to reach 5% of GDP by 2035.
- George Robertson criticizes the Treasury's approach to military funding.
- Robertson will speak in Salisbury, addressing concerns over defence budget management.
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Good morning. When Keir Starmer gave evidence to the Commons liaison committee before the Easter recess, and when he made a statement to MPs yesterday on the first day after it was over, he was repeatedly asked when the government will publish its defence investment plan (DIP). On both occasions, he could not give a timetable and would just say it would be published as soon as it was ready.
His critics are furious because the DIP, a 10-year plan explaining how the government will fund its commitment to get defence spending up to 3% of GDP by the end of the next parliament, with total national security spending reaching 5% of GDP by 2035, was due to be published last autumn.
In particular, the DIP will explain how the government will be able to fulfil the goals set out in the strategic defence review it published last year. The review was led by the Labour peer George Robertson, a former defence secretary and former secretary general of Nato. And he seems to have finally lost patience with the government.
He is giving a speech in Salisbury tonight, but Lucy Fisher from the Financial Times has already written up some extracts and in them Robertson is withering about the Treasury. According to Fisher’s report, Robertson will accuse “non-military experts in the Treasury” of “vandalism”, adding: “We cannot defend Britain with an ever-expanding welfare budget.”
He will criticise Rachel Reeves, the chancellor, for devoting just 40 words to defence in her budget speech last year, and saying nothing about the topic at all in her spring statement last month. He will say:
double quotation markThere is a corrosive complacency today in Britain’s political leadership. Lip service is paid to the risks, the threats, the bright red signals of danger — but even a promised national conversation about defence can’t be started.
He will also say Britain is not safe.
double quotation markWe are underprepared. We are underinsured. We are under attack. We are not safe . . . Britain’s national security and safety is in peril.
Robertson is not a defence loudmouth. He is a quintessential establishment figure who for most of his career has avoided being provocative, or rocking the boat. If he feels minded to speak out like this, it must be serious.
Olivia Lee has a full write-up here.
This morning General Sir Richard Barrons, who along with Robertson was one of the three experts who wrote the defence review (the other was the former White House adviser and Russia expert Fiona Hill), gave an interview to the Today programme. Barrons, a former commander of Joint Forces Command, fully supported what Robertson will be saying in his speech. And he said that Britain’s armed forces are so diminished that he had to accept that Pete Hegseth, the US defence secretary, was right when he mocked the Royal Navy last month.
“Last time I checked, there was supposed to be a big, bad Royal Navy that could be prepared to do things like [clear the strait of Hormuz] as well,” Hegseth said.
Asked how he felt hearing that, Barrons said:
double quotation markLike many others I hung my head in sorrow. But I couldn’t argue with him because although the Royal Navy and the Royal Air Force and the army are, in their bones, outstanding institutions, they are simply too small and too undernourished to deal with the world that we we now live in. And the review says this.
Here is the agenda for the day.
Morning: Keir Starmer chairs cabinet. There will be a political session, as well as the usual government meeting.
10am: South East Water executives give evidence to the environment, food and rural affairs committee, followed by Ofwat chief executive Chris Walters at 11am.
10am: Education experts give evidence to the Commons education committee about the proposed changes to Send (special educational needs and disabilities) provision.
10.30am: Executives from TikTok, Meta, Sky TV and Paramount TV executives give evidence to the culture committee about children’s TV and video content.
Morning: Kemi Badenoch is on a visit in south London.
11am: Ed Davey, the Lib Dem leader, holds a press conference focusing on health.
11.30am: Wes Streeting, the health secretary, takes questions in the Commons.
Noon: Downing Street holds a lobby briefing.
Afternoon: Starmer meets his Dutch counterpart, Rob Jetten, in Downing Street.
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Ed Davey, the Lib Dem leader, is holding a press conference.
During his Q&A, he was asked about defence spending, and the claim by George Robertson that he declined an invitation to a briefing on the strategic defence review.
Davey said the party had searched through emails, and been unable to find the invitation. But he would be happy to take up the offer, he said.
On defence spending generally, he claimed the Lib Dems were leading the way with their proposal for defence bonds (ie, borrowing) to be used to fund a £20bn increase in spending.
He went on:
double quotation markWe need to get together as a country. The defence challenges for our country are so serious, with war on our continent for the first time for a long time, with Russia invading Ukraine, surely that’s been the wake up call that we needed. The government hasn’t gone as fast as it should have given those circumstances.
Ed Davey speaking at his press conference Photograph: PA
A funding boost of almost £130m is set to be distributed across cultural venues, museums and libraries in England, the Department for Culture, Media and Sporthas announced. In a news release, it says:
double quotation markVenues ranging from The Lowry Centre in Salford, The Hexagon in Reading and the Royal Shakespeare Company in Warwickshire will receive a much needed cash boost to help open up access to facilities, complete much needed building projects and upgrade technology on site.
The 130 organisations receiving funding today mark the first projects receiving cash from the government’s Arts Everywhere Fund. As the cost of living continues to affect families across Britain, funding for these venues will help provide welcoming, affordable spaces for communities to visit, come together and celebrate what makes their local area special.
Downing Street has announced that Keir Starmer and Emmanuel Macron, the French president, will co-chair the next meeting of the group of 40-odd countries exploring options for keeping the strait of Hormuz open after the Iran war ends. The meeting will take place in Paris on Friday.
Keir Starmer will lead a new cabinet committee to deal with the fallout from the Iran conflict, the Press Association reports. PA says:
double quotation markThe group – the Middle East response committee – has its first meeting today focused on efforts to reopen the strait of Hormuz, the shipping route vital for global oil and gas supplies.
The PM established the committee to deal with the domestic and international impacts of the war, which has driven up energy prices, caused stock market turmoil and exposed deep divisions between the US and its traditional European allies.
No 10 insiders compared the new panel to the committees set up under Tory prime ministers to deal with Brexit preparations and the Covid pandemic.
A source said the “new central structure” would focus on “medium-term scenario planning to respond to developments in the region over the coming weeks and months”.
Alongside the ministerial committee – whose full membership has not yet been disclosed – senior officials will meet under the chairmanship of cabinet secretary Dame Antonia Romeo.
The new structure is seen as an acknowledgement that the situation will continue to have an impact on the UK for some time, but meetings of the emergency Cobra committee will still be held to respond to immediate crises.
This is from Patrick Wintour, the Guardian’s diplomatic editor (and former political editor), on George Robertson’s intervention. (See 8.58am.)
double quotation markLord Robertson is a good man that has been passionate about defence spending and Nato all through his political career. He struck with the Labour right wing when it was neither fashionable nor a good career move. Naturally Labour right wingers have gravitated towards the defence portfolios down the years, and Robertson is a premier example. So when he says “We cannot defend Britain with an ever-expanding welfare budget,” he is bringing his politics, as well as his expertise, to the debate. He is not beyond challenge. Nor would he expect to be.
In her Radio 5 Live interview, Kemi Badenoch also criticised Donald Trump for making “childish” remarks.
The Conservatives regard the US Republicans as a sister party and, for most of her time as Tory leader, Badenoch mostly supportive of Trump. But today she said that the image of Trump as Jesus that he posted on Truth Social was “preposterous”, and she said his decision to share it was “very bizarre”.
She went on:
double quotation markIf [Trump is] saying something that makes sense, we should agree. If he says something that doesn’t make sense, we should disagree. I think he’s right to say we need to do more spending on defence … He’s wrong to make childish remarks. He’s wrong to [make] these empty threats on Greenland and so on. All of that’s wrong. What he said about Iran [the threat to wipe out its civilisation], that’s wrong as well.
This is not the first time Badenoch has used the word “childish” to describe some of Trump’s comments.
Kemi Badenoch has told Radio 5 Live that she “100% agrees” with what George Robertson is saying, as quoted in the FT, about Britain being unable to defend itself properly with an “ever-expanding wefare budget”. (See 8.58am.) Asked about his speech in an interview this morning, she said:
double quotation markWe used to spend one in every seven pounds on welfare. Now it’s one in every three pounds and a lot of that money has basically been swapped for defence.
The world is not as peaceful as it used to be. The peace dividend that existed after the fall of the Berlin Wall is gone, we need to spend more money on defence.
This is a former Labour defence secretary, former [Nato] secretary general, saying what I’ve been saying for the past few weeks.
According to the FT, Robertson will also say in his speech tonight that “depressingly” the leaders of the Liberal Democrat and Reform UK turned down his invitation to a briefing on what the strategic defence review says. Badenoch said this was proof other parties were not taking defence seriously.
Nigel Farage’s spokesperson told the FT that the Reform UK leader was not aware of the invitation. Ed Davey’s spokesperson did not respond to the FT’s request for a comment.
The government has defended its record on defence spending in response to the criticisms made by George Robertson. (See 8.58am.) In response to the FT story, a government spokesperson said:
double quotation markWe are delivering on the strategic defence review to meet the threats we face.
It is backed by the largest sustained increase in defence spending since the Cold War, with a total of over £270bn being invested across this parliament.
We are finalising our defence investment plan that we will publish as soon as possible, putting the best kit and technology into the hands of our forces, rebuilding British industry to make defence an engine for growth and doubling down on our own commitment to Nato.
Good morning. When Keir Starmer gave evidence to the Commons liaison committee before the Easter recess, and when he made a statement to MPs yesterday on the first day after it was over, he was repeatedly asked when the government will publish its defence investment plan (DIP). On both occasions, he could not give a timetable and would just say it would be published as soon as it was ready.
His critics are furious because the DIP, a 10-year plan explaining how the government will fund its commitment to get defence spending up to 3% of GDP by the end of the next parliament, with total national security spending reaching 5% of GDP by 2035, was due to be published last autumn.
In particular, the DIP will explain how the government will be able to fulfil the goals set out in the strategic defence review it published last year. The review was led by the Labour peer George Robertson, a former defence secretary and former secretary general of Nato. And he seems to have finally lost patience with the government.
He is giving a speech in Salisbury tonight, but Lucy Fisher from the Financial Times has already written up some extracts and in them Robertson is withering about the Treasury. According to Fisher’s report, Robertson will accuse “non-military experts in the Treasury” of “vandalism”, adding: “We cannot defend Britain with an ever-expanding welfare budget.”
He will criticise Rachel Reeves, the chancellor, for devoting just 40 words to defence in her budget speech last year, and saying nothing about the topic at all in her spring statement last month. He will say:
double quotation markThere is a corrosive complacency today in Britain’s political leadership. Lip service is paid to the risks, the threats, the bright red signals of danger — but even a promised national conversation about defence can’t be started.
He will also say Britain is not safe.
double quotation markWe are underprepared. We are underinsured. We are under attack. We are not safe . . . Britain’s national security and safety is in peril.
Robertson is not a defence loudmouth. He is a quintessential establishment figure who for most of his career has avoided being provocative, or rocking the boat. If he feels minded to speak out like this, it must be serious.
Olivia Lee has a full write-up here.
This morning General Sir Richard Barrons, who along with Robertson was one of the three experts who wrote the defence review (the other was the former White House adviser and Russia expert Fiona Hill), gave an interview to the Today programme. Barrons, a former commander of Joint Forces Command, fully supported what Robertson will be saying in his speech. And he said that Britain’s armed forces are so diminished that he had to accept that Pete Hegseth, the US defence secretary, was right when he mocked the Royal Navy last month.
“Last time I checked, there was supposed to be a big, bad Royal Navy that could be prepared to do things like [clear the strait of Hormuz] as well,” Hegseth said.
Asked how he felt hearing that, Barrons said:
double quotation markLike many others I hung my head in sorrow. But I couldn’t argue with him because although the Royal Navy and the Royal Air Force and the army are, in their bones, outstanding institutions, they are simply too small and too undernourished to deal with the world that we we now live in. And the review says this.
Here is the agenda for the day.
Morning: Keir Starmer chairs cabinet. There will be a political session, as well as the usual government meeting.
10am: South East Water executives give evidence to the environment, food and rural affairs committee, followed by Ofwat chief executive Chris Walters at 11am.
10am: Education experts give evidence to the Commons education committee about the proposed changes to Send (special educational needs and disabilities) provision.
10.30am: Executives from TikTok, Meta, Sky TV and Paramount TV executives give evidence to the culture committee about children’s TV and video content.
Morning: Kemi Badenoch is on a visit in south London.
11am: Ed Davey, the Lib Dem leader, holds a press conference focusing on health.
11.30am: Wes Streeting, the health secretary, takes questions in the Commons.
Noon: Downing Street holds a lobby briefing.
Afternoon: Starmer meets his Dutch counterpart, Rob Jetten, in Downing Street.
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Q&A
What is the UK's defence investment plan and its goals?
The UK's defence investment plan aims to increase defence spending to 3% of GDP by the end of the next parliament and total national security spending to 5% of GDP by 2035.
Why is Keir Starmer being criticized regarding the defence investment plan?
Keir Starmer is criticized for failing to provide a timeline for the publication of the defence investment plan, which was expected last autumn.
What accusations is George Robertson making against the Treasury?
George Robertson accuses non-military experts in the Treasury of 'vandalism' regarding their handling of military funding, stating that Britain cannot be defended with an expanding welfare budget.
When was the strategic defence review published and who led it?
The strategic defence review was published last year and was led by George Robertson, a former defence secretary and NATO secretary general.
